Crap...that's fixed but my thread views defaulted and I can't get it back the way it was :X

Can't override the control center defaults any more...going to be pissed

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Can't override the control center defaults any more...going to be pissed

i have been messing around with the forum template settings, and i haven't really figured out exactly how everything works. the "default" template still has a green theme on the home page but black and grey within threads, and when i switch the black and grey template, it gets all wacky in other ways. anyway, i am sticking to the default one. the front page isn't supposed to be green though, right?

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Can't override the control center defaults any more...going to be pissed

Fixed. Sorry about that.

I had installed a mod that's supposed to allow anonymous users to use threaded mode like registered users can. It didn't work, but I learned that wasn't it's biggest problem. As you discovered, it broke the threaded option for everybody! So I have turned off that option, threaded view works again, and anonymous users can get used to the flat view.

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the "default" template still has a green theme on the home page

That should be gone. If you're still seeing the green headings, your browser has probably cached the little green image. Try clearing your browser's cache.

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when i switch the black and grey template, it gets all wacky in other ways

Yeah, that's one of the original canned templates that doesn't work with Chrome or Safari. I should just get rid of it.

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anyway, i am sticking to the default one. the front page isn't supposed to be green though, right?

Right. Good plan. I'm trying make the default template the perfect template for everyone.

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Can't override the control center defaults any more...going to be pissed

Fixed. Sorry about that.

I had installed a mod that's supposed to allow anonymous users to use threaded mode like registered users can. It didn't work, but I learned that wasn't it's biggest problem. As you discovered, it broke the threaded option for everybody! So I have turned off that option, threaded view works again, and anonymous users can get used to the flat view.

Thanks Dave. I knew it was probably something like that and you would sort it out

There are bound to be more glitches as you build the site and tweek things with as much functionality as you can squeeze in.

Keep on keeping on!

I won't be taking the OBC out of the car today...-12ºC with high winds and a chill factor near -20ºC ...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

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I won't be taking the OBC out of the car today...-12ºC with high winds and a chill factor near -20ºC ...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

I dunno, sounds like typical winter day around here.

Wimp.

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I won't be taking the OBC out of the car today...-12ºC with high winds and a chill factor near -20ºC ...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

I dunno, sounds like typical winter day around here.

Wimp.

Yep...this is normally the banana belt with mean annual temps falling between 40 and 70 degrees. Blast of cold like this are a big jolt to our temperate systems
I spent an hour last night checking out Costa Rica

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... doesn't work with Chrome or Safari.

To reiterate, if it's something that doesn't work for one particular browser but works in others, then it's most likely an HTML code validation error. It's not the browser's fault, but a fault in the webpage's HTML code. Some browser's are better at handling coding errors, whereas others will choke on the same error.

For example, there is a recurring error in HTML code in the way the pages are coming up right now.

This is in the bit that displays your 1st gear, 2nd gear, etc rating under your avatar:

     <td class="message-user-info"
                <div class="postcount">
		  3rd gear

Note the ">" closing tag is missing on the <td> at the end of the first line.

That's probably not a fatal error as most modern browsers come bloated heavy with lots of error-detection routines, but something like that could trip a simpler browser that's more dependent on being fed valid html code.

Running all your pages through an HTML validator to detect such errors goes a long way to solving problems such as this, where the page displays fine in one browser but not another.

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To reiterate, if it's something that doesn't work for one particular browser but works in others, then it's most likely an HTML code validation error. It's not the browser's fault, but a fault in the webpage's HTML code.

Yes, I know. Unfortunately the errors you're seeing are coded into the canned Phorum templates themselves. Some of the templates are worse than others, and I will probably simply disable the worst ones. I am in the process of rewriting my own template based on one that at least works out of the box with all browsers, even though it still shows errors when you run it through an HTML validator. The default template is the result of that work. Unfortunately rewriting the code is a long process, as I first need to learn how the various Phorum PHP files work together to even determine where the incorrect HTML code occurs. Eventually I'll fix it so the code is valid, but getting it working in the first place was my top prioroty.

There are other problems that are entirely browser related, particularly the handling of CSS styles. Perfectly valid HTML code can still appear strange in certain browsers because of the way they interpret CSS styles. IE is especially bad at this, and with almost every version IE changes how it interprets styles, so I need to check it with IE8, IE7, and IE6. (Any IE5 users are out of luck.) There are horrible hacks that developers have created to make web sites look the same in IE as in other browsers that follow HTML and CSS standards..

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Dave_G
... doesn't work with Chrome or Safari.

To reiterate, if it's something that doesn't work for one particular browser but works in others, then it's most likely an HTML code validation error. It's not the browser's fault, but a fault in the webpage's HTML code. Some browser's are better at handling coding errors, whereas others will choke on the same error.

For example, there is a recurring error in HTML code in the way the pages are coming up right now.

This is in the bit that displays your 1st gear, 2nd gear, etc rating under your avatar:

     <td class="message-user-info"
                <div class="postcount">
		  3rd gear

Note the ">" closing tag is missing on the <td> at the end of the first line.

That's probably not a fatal error as most modern browsers come bloated heavy with lots of error-detection routines, but something like that could trip a simpler browser that's more dependent on being fed valid html code.

Running all your pages through an HTML validator to detect such errors goes a long way to solving problems such as this, where the page displays fine in one browser but not another.

I downloaded one of the HTML cleaner/validators you recommended and it has worked quite well. So far I have been able to fix and view linked photos that don't show because of incorrect leading or trailing tags. The cleaner either adds or removes the offening code and the pics pop right up

A great little tool!

I have also noticed how poorly written many of the sites I visit are...a couple show hundreds of warnings

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Dave_G
Unfortunately the errors you're seeing are coded into the canned Phorum templates themselves. Some of the templates are worse than others, and I will probably simply disable the worst ones. I am in the process of rewriting my own template based on one that at least works out of the box with all browsers, even though it still shows errors when you run it through an HTML validator. The default template is the result of that work. Unfortunately rewriting the code is a long process, as I first need to learn how the various Phorum PHP files work together to even determine where the incorrect HTML code occurs. Eventually I'll fix it so the code is valid, but getting it working in the first place was my top priority.

Okay, sorry to keep ragging on you about this. It's just a pet peeve of mine.

You're doing a GREAT job!

hooray, my forum is black again. screw green.

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hooray, my forum is black again. screw green.

Yeh, it's looking really good

I miss the green. I like green. I'm wearing a green shirt today.

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1990 325i(s)
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I miss the green. I like green. I'm wearing a green shirt today.

OK, Cab, this is for you:


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Cab Treadway
I miss the green. I like green. I'm wearing a green shirt today.

OK, Cab, this is for you:

Hmm. Not bad. Maybe a little different shade of green than I prefer.

I like this green. We didn't really love the car, but I liked the color.



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1990 325i(s)
2004 325XiT

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I miss the green. I like green. I'm wearing a green shirt today.

Hmm. Not bad. Maybe a little different shade of green than I prefer.

I like this green. We didn't really love the car, but I liked the color.

how did you get those wheels to fit on that car? did they make them for e34s also? come to think of it, i have seen an e32 with them...

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how did you get those wheels to fit on that car? did they make them for e34s also? come to think of it, i have seen an e32 with them...

They were replica wheels. They were on it when we bought the car from a friend of mine. Not a great car ownership experience. Nice engine, though. If it had been the 6-speed, I would have tried harder to make it work. Or at least I should have pulled out the engine and kept it for a future E30 insertion project.

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1990 325i(s)
2004 325XiT