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Posted by Archeo-peteriX 
February 07, 2009 11:48AM
Went out to take the iX to the library and the battery was dead; well dead enough that the starter doesn't have enough juice to crank the engine over :X

I'm a little bit peeved because this was a new battery last spring. I started to notice that it wasn't holding a full charge by late summer so I put a solar charger in and that seemed to help a lot. But the last couple of months have had short day light hours and mostly overcast and/or the car covered with snow.

Last week, I noticed the starting was getting a little weaker and even took the car for a couple of 1 hour drives(which did put a good charge on the battery) but it still loses it's charge when sitting.

I checked for any high current drain but it's very healthy with only a 15mA drain which should not drain the battery in 4 to 5 days of not being driven. I suspect a weak battery and will be taking it back for replacement.

Maybe the car gods are telling me it's time to move on winking smiley

Should I get a nice new Ferd Focus?
rkj
February 07, 2009 11:56AM
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Archeo-peteriX
Went out to take the iX to the library and the battery was dead; well dead enough that the starter doesn't have enough juice to crank the engine over :X

I'm a little bit peeved because this was a new battery last spring. I started to notice that it wasn't holding a full charge by late summer so I put a solar charger in and that seemed to help a lot. But the last couple of months have had short day light hours and mostly overcast and/or the car covered with snow.

Last week, I noticed the starting was getting a little weaker and even took the car for a couple of 1 hour drives(which did put a good charge on the battery) but it still loses it's charge when sitting.

I checked for any high current drain but it's very healthy with only a 15mA drain which should not drain the battery in 4 to 5 days of not being driven. I suspect a weak battery and will be taking it back for replacement.

Maybe the car gods are telling me it's time to move on winking smiley

Should I get a nice new Ferd Focus?

Shame on you Peter, it sounds like you just need a battery. I've had a few bad "new" ones (one tested good too at the parts house, but it was still bad).

Now, be a good fella and put those new car thoughts out of your head smiling smiley although, there are a few dandy cars coming to our shores in 2010 smiling bouncing smiley
February 07, 2009 12:49PM
Wow, that is one expensive battery!! 20 grand for a car that starts...you should run for Parliament. grinning smiley
February 07, 2009 01:30PM
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rkj
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Now, be a good fella and put those new car thoughts out of your head smiling smiley although, there are a few dandy cars coming to our shores in 2010 smiling bouncing smiley

Ok, I can wait...I don't have any money anyway and no place to go grinning smiley
February 07, 2009 01:31PM
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wodcutr
Wow, that is one expensive battery!! 20 grand for a car that starts...you should run for Parliament. grinning smiley

I wish I could figure out how to get in on that without becoming a lying, cheating, stealing politician hot smiley
February 07, 2009 02:56PM
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Archeo-peteriX
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wodcutr
Wow, that is one expensive battery!! 20 grand for a car that starts...you should run for Parliament. grinning smiley

I wish I could figure out how to get in on that without becoming a lying, cheating, stealing politician hot smiley

Maybe you should think about opening a bank! tongue sticking out smiley
February 07, 2009 03:34PM
That would be a no go...I have a conscience grinning smiley
February 07, 2009 03:37PM
the old one was put on the tester and failed within 5 minutes.
No problem, still under warranty and I still have 27 months left until it gets prorated for the remaining 2 years B)-

I'll keep the iX for a little longer winking smiley
rkj
February 07, 2009 06:45PM
There you go thumbs up
February 07, 2009 09:06PM
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rkj
There you go thumbs up

The strangest thing has occurred...
When the original battery, that had been in the car for a little over 12 years, died; the econometer was acting up. When I put the new battery in(the one that just died); the econometer sprang back to life.
Since last summer, the tach and the econometer have both been completely dead.

Now that the new battery is installed; both the tach and econometer are functioning perfectly. Additionally; the 6 button OBC that Dave traded me now has a bright display backlight as soon as I fire up the car. With the old battery, it was dim until I had driven for several minutes eye popping smiley

It's really amazing what low voltage does to the electronics in these cars.

I'm happy that the new battery has restored a lot of things I thought I was going to have to trouble shoot smileys with beer

One other thing I discovered when I pulled the battery and the plate that it sits on; was a pool of water in the well. Some previous owner had plugged up the small 'D' shaped drain with caulking...frigging morons :X
I scraped away the caulking and cleared the hole so the water could escape and dried the well out with a towel. Miraculously there is not a single sign of rust anywhere eye popping smiley
BMW built this iX to withstand winter and wetcoast weather thumbs up
February 07, 2009 10:27PM
Imagine how electronically intensive new cars are!!! I had heard that cars would go to 24-48 volt systems and all the accessories would be electrically driven!

alan
February 08, 2009 11:34AM
A US Ford Focus... Why not immediatly buy a coffin?
February 08, 2009 02:51PM
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Michiel 318iS
A US Ford Focus... Why not immediatly buy a coffin?

No...I was thinking of one of the really nice Euro models thumbs up
February 08, 2009 03:21PM
A friend lent me his Mini Cooper S for a few days while he took my E30 for some paint. I gotta say, that is one fun car!!!! Fast little bugger and corners like it is on rails. And the car itself is magic. It is bigger on the inside when you are in it than when you see it from the outside.

alan
February 08, 2009 08:17PM
Felt inclined to add a little update...

Initially the car ran like crap with the new battery(obviously factory default mapping is out of touch with the condition of the system); but after three or four outings, the car runs better, smoother and with seemingly more oomph than it has for a while.

It may just be psychological with all the instrument cluster once again functioning and the cols running hesitation gone but I swear it's almost like a new car eye popping smiley

I'll keep tabs on the fuel economy and see if it is any different than with the old defective battery...
February 09, 2009 12:22PM
The goofy thing is, once the car is started, is it not running off the alternator? Kinda crazy, no?

alan
February 09, 2009 12:47PM
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alanrw
The goofy thing is, once the car is started, is it not running off the alternator? Kinda crazy, no?

alan

The car should never be running off the alternator. All electrical and electronics run off the battery. The battery is constantly being charged by the alternator through the voltage regulator smiling smiley

In the case of this bad battery, the voltage regulator was probably not able to keep the voltage high enough...thus the poorly functioning gauges.
Most of the electronics in our cars require at least 12volts to operate properly. Electrical stuff like the starter and window motors will work fine down to much lower voltages, so long as there is enough current to run them.
rkj
February 10, 2009 11:58AM
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Archeo-peteriX
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alanrw
The goofy thing is, once the car is started, is it not running off the alternator? Kinda crazy, no?

alan

The car should never be running off the alternator. All electrical and electronics run off the battery. The battery is constantly being charged by the alternator through the voltage regulator smiling smiley

In the case of this bad battery, the voltage regulator was probably not able to keep the voltage high enough...thus the poorly functioning gauges.
Most of the electronics in our cars require at least 12volts to operate properly. Electrical stuff like the starter and window motors will work fine down to much lower voltages, so long as there is enough current to run them.

Yes, these cars are funny (not the laughing kind) when it comes to low voltage/wattage whatever. Your condition doesn't surprise me at all, I've had all kinds of otherwordly electrical things go on with these cars, they just need the full umph to make em happy from both the battery and the charging system. Over the years this forum has born that out for sure, hey Archie?
February 10, 2009 05:52PM
Yeah, when I first bought my e30 it had been sitting for a few weeks in the Chicago cold and the battery was so dead when I picked it up that after using a booster pack to start it, I had to keep it revved up or it would die with the fog lights on. With the fog lights off however, it had just slightly less draw and it was able to idle on it's own without dying. The next morning I picked up a new Battery and everything was fine after that.
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